Comments on: Camino: Supermodel of a Browser?

By: Han

Han — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:52:49 +0000

Funny thing, I always thought the full-page load lag for Camino obvious.

Firefox is slow as hell, both on my Mac and PC. Can’t seem to figure out why.

Opera is the best, though, better than either Camino, FF, or Safari. Among other things, it has Mail, IRC, widget engine, and a ton of other features all bundled in together with the web browser, plus it’s way faster and way more secure. It also has this trash can feature that’s like the “Recently Opened Tabs” in the History menu in FF, except you don’thave to go through a menu to get to it. Waaay better.

http://www.opera.com

(note: admittedly, this poost was read and the comment made in Camino)

By: Rustin

Rustin — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I just downloaded Camino this afternoon, and within 20 minutes I decided to use it as my primary browser. It’s really slick.

CamiTools is a must have for an even greater level of customization.

At first my only gripe was a ‘find as you type’ search on the page. come to find out all I have to do is type “/” then my search term, and watch the status bar. By golly, there’s my search terms as it highlights it in the page. a simple cmd+G move me to the next instance. Beautiful.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’m gonna give Camino another try.

Your Note at the end made my day. :D

By: oliver

oliver — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I love your browser analogies. But you forgot one.
Omniweb is the old movie-star who hasn’t had a hit in forever, he’s looking for a comeback in a bad way. Sure, no one will notice much when he makes his move, but people who have been fans from the beginning will revel.

By: Mike D.

Mike D. — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Oliver: Ha! You’re totally right. In fact, OmniWeb was the first browser that really got me excited about OS X. It was the first browser that rendered Quartz type with edgeless windows. Let’s see, what girl is a good analogy for that…

I would say maybe OmniWeb is like Christie Brinkley or Elle McPherson. It ushered in the modern age of beauty in browsers but hasn’t made an impact since the new stars took over.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You and I are simpatico my friend. I feel the same way about Firefox and Safari and took notice of Camino going 1.0 today. I was leaning towards giving it an honest try as my primary browser.

So far I only have one complaint. When I click a link that opens a new window using the target=”_blank” command, I want that to open in a new tab automatically. I don’t want to have to hold down CMD + Click or right-click and choose open in a new tab. I have this behavior in Firefox and that’s why Safari could never be my full time browser (unless I wanted to pay for the Saft plugin). I’ve looked all over the preferences and even tried to configure the prefs.js file but I can’t get it to do this one, simple thing.

Any of your readers know how I can accomplish this?

By: Uncle Asad

Uncle Asad — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Chris, at the moment you can't do exactly as you wantâ€”you can make those links open in the same (current) tab, thoughâ€”because when the feature was orginally implemented in Gecko by Firefox developers, it was done in a way that Camino couldn't use it :-( But the feature has recently been reworked and the full set of options will be available in a future Camino version. See this page for instructions on enabling Camino to redirect target="_blank" links into the same tab.

By: Rob Goodlatte

Rob Goodlatte — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Mike, Safari called me last night in tears. And, judging from the post 10.4.4 crashes I’ve been having, she was a bit drunk. Camino might be the new girl in town, but you’ll go back to Safari in no time. Besides, you’re only attracted to Camino because she bought the same dress mail.app’s been wearing. Safari is still trotting around in brushed metal but she’ll move on.

As an aside: Wow, comparing browsers to women is pretty much the height of nerdity.

By: Chris Stout

Chris Stout — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’ve been using Chimera/Camino occassionally since version 0.3, but I never found any equivalent to the Web Developer Toolbar in Firefox. I really miss this one.

By: Robert Nyman

Robert Nyman — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Wonderful analogies! Thanks for making me laugh first thing a dull Wednesday morning… :-)

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Uncle Asad:

Thanks for the information, I wish you had a better answer for me. Hopefully this will be implemented in Camino soon. Especially since it was those bastard gecko developers that got me hooked on tabbed browsing. Actually…wasn’t it the original Chimera developer that created tabbed browsing then was hired by Apple to lead the Safari team?

I digress. I did see the target _blank into the same window hint when I was searching Google for a way to get that working but that behavior is so last century.

By: Chris Griffin

Chris Griffin — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I grew sick of Firefox over a month ago, which prompted me to switch over to Safari as my primary browser, but it was never the only browser I used. I was still using Firefox to develop websites.

Why? The Developer Toolbar. I can’t live without my web developer toolbar.

I’m like you Mike, I want only one browser. But until Camino has a web developer toolbar that rivals Firefox’s WebDev Toolbar, I still have to use Firefox.

By: Sebastian Werner

Sebastian Werner — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This is a really great statement:

“Firefox is like the girl in school who you knew you should probably date because sheâ€™s intelligent, multilingual, and funny, but she just wasnâ€™t very attractive to you.”

Really funny ;)

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Does everyone on this page own a Mac??!!

I’ll stick with FireFox on Windows until Opera *finally* fix that silly favicon bug thats stopping me from using it as my prime browser. It may be a small thing, but I love my favicons ;)

By: Devon Shaw

Devon Shaw — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

No mention anywhere of integrated RSS, that’s one big black mark on the pristine white finish, Mike. Granted most of you probably use NetNewsWire (or a quasi-worthy equivalent), I have never been able to burn so fast through my 700+ daily RSS articles since using Safari’s internal reader. Sure it’s a bit sloppy, but effective as hell and to the point. If Camino emulated this with native speed and efficiency (and not just as an extension), I’d be completely sold.

Close, but not quite. It does replace DeerPark G4 as my alternate browser though.