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	<title>Comments on: The Proof is in the People</title>
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		<title>By: Chad Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I seem to thank you often for your posts (and the links they contain), so let me do it once more: Thank you.

I keep a Basecamp project for OSNAP.net, and I&#039;ve added several posts by you along with the links for my very small (we&#039;re 3, and my fiancÃ© is one of them) team. The news you reference, the future of the Interweb, etc. all prove to be valuable reading material for us.

I&#039;m not saying we&#039;re specifically modeling ourselves after the structure of Newsvine, far from it - it&#039;s just the steps you&#039;ve discussed and the attitude you have greatly match how we feel.

I hope that our venture is 1/10th the fun and 1/10th the excitement that Newsvine has been for you - as long as we&#039;re 10x the profitability :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I seem to thank you often for your posts (and the links they contain), so let me do it once more: Thank you.</p>
<p>I keep a Basecamp project for OSNAP.net, and I&#8217;ve added several posts by you along with the links for my very small (we&#8217;re 3, and my fiancÃ© is one of them) team. The news you reference, the future of the Interweb, etc. all prove to be valuable reading material for us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we&#8217;re specifically modeling ourselves after the structure of Newsvine, far from it &#8211; it&#8217;s just the steps you&#8217;ve discussed and the attitude you have greatly match how we feel.</p>
<p>I hope that our venture is 1/10th the fun and 1/10th the excitement that Newsvine has been for you &#8211; as long as we&#8217;re 10x the profitability :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that I like Newsvine so much, since I tend to be a late adopter of technology trends. It&#039;s very intuitive, makes categories readily accessible, etc. My only qualm is that when you go to the Seed Newsvine page via the JavaScript browser button, the page resizes itself. It took me awhile, but I finally figured out the URL scheme to pass along a &quot;seeded&quot; link to the regular Seed a Link page (via 1-click on my blog) without JS. To me, it makes sense that these two would be the same page, but I&#039;m sure you guys know best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that I like Newsvine so much, since I tend to be a late adopter of technology trends. It&#8217;s very intuitive, makes categories readily accessible, etc. My only qualm is that when you go to the Seed Newsvine page via the JavaScript browser button, the page resizes itself. It took me awhile, but I finally figured out the URL scheme to pass along a &#8220;seeded&#8221; link to the regular Seed a Link page (via 1-click on my blog) without JS. To me, it makes sense that these two would be the same page, but I&#8217;m sure you guys know best.</p>
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		<title>By: Early News Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Early News Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a place to see all the seeds in any given category.  I really want to see what people are posting at any given time in real time.  Is there anyway to do this?  Kinda like digg has a digg spy.  Its the best way to find hidden stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there was a place to see all the seeds in any given category.  I really want to see what people are posting at any given time in real time.  Is there anyway to do this?  Kinda like digg has a digg spy.  Its the best way to find hidden stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Swan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. 

If you want to succeed, stop solving the problems that are already solved and find new problems that nobody knows about. Then solve those. 

There&#039;s always a better way to do things, so you can always start with the things you already take for granted. Because chances are, they aren&#039;t good enough.

Newsvine is a great example of this. I took news (something we used to take for granted), and took it to a whole new level--a level that nobody had really done before now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. </p>
<p>If you want to succeed, stop solving the problems that are already solved and find new problems that nobody knows about. Then solve those. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s always a better way to do things, so you can always start with the things you already take for granted. Because chances are, they aren&#8217;t good enough.</p>
<p>Newsvine is a great example of this. I took news (something we used to take for granted), and took it to a whole new level&#8211;a level that nobody had really done before now.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Even though Newsvine is not a competitor of Gather&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, yes it is. User-generated newsblog content with revenue sharing, plus tagging and rating of news sources? Both are in the social news category, competing for the same users as Digg and Slashdot, and to a lesser extent Inform.com and Topix. You should be glad of such market validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Even though Newsvine is not a competitor of Gather</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, yes it is. User-generated newsblog content with revenue sharing, plus tagging and rating of news sources? Both are in the social news category, competing for the same users as Digg and Slashdot, and to a lesser extent Inform.com and Topix. You should be glad of such market validation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: Yes, I suppose we all are in the &quot;web site&quot; category as well, which really makes things look bleak considering the competition from eBay, Amazon, Google, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://hampsterdance.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hampster Dance&lt;/a&gt;.

As human beings, our instinct is to constantly try and make sense of the world around us by placing new things alongside the old things we are already familiar with. When we see something new, we are quick to draw as many comparisons as possible so as to decrease our anxiety of the unknown.

You are free to consider sites like Newsvine competitors of whatever other sites you&#039;d like.  If a person has X number of minutes to use the internet every day, every site is competing for that attention.  We don&#039;t, however, view Gather, Digg, Slashdot, or any of the other sites you mention as competitors. If anything, it&#039;s more like the CNN.com&#039;s of the world we&#039;re trying to improve upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: Yes, I suppose we all are in the &#8220;web site&#8221; category as well, which really makes things look bleak considering the competition from eBay, Amazon, Google, and <a href="http://hampsterdance.com/" rel="nofollow">Hampster Dance</a>.</p>
<p>As human beings, our instinct is to constantly try and make sense of the world around us by placing new things alongside the old things we are already familiar with. When we see something new, we are quick to draw as many comparisons as possible so as to decrease our anxiety of the unknown.</p>
<p>You are free to consider sites like Newsvine competitors of whatever other sites you&#8217;d like.  If a person has X number of minutes to use the internet every day, every site is competing for that attention.  We don&#8217;t, however, view Gather, Digg, Slashdot, or any of the other sites you mention as competitors. If anything, it&#8217;s more like the CNN.com&#8217;s of the world we&#8217;re trying to improve upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, that CNN comparison sounds as good as any, since we&#039;re all making it up as we go along. Of course, everyone&#039;s a unique snowflake if they want to be. Nevertheless, it&#039;s going to become increasingly hard to escape blogger characterisations of the &quot;news aggregator&quot; or &quot;social news&quot; sector, or &quot;News 2.0&quot; as Michael Arrington christened it. Like the content of the sites themselves, the power to bestow labels is in the hands of the users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, that CNN comparison sounds as good as any, since we&#8217;re all making it up as we go along. Of course, everyone&#8217;s a unique snowflake if they want to be. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s going to become increasingly hard to escape blogger characterisations of the &#8220;news aggregator&#8221; or &#8220;social news&#8221; sector, or &#8220;News 2.0&#8243; as Michael Arrington christened it. Like the content of the sites themselves, the power to bestow labels is in the hands of the users.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally Paul.  I agree.

I just wanted to make clear that our approach is neither to create a new category, nor join a &quot;newish&quot; category currently inhabited by early adopter and techie types. It&#039;s to take a very old and enormously higher trafficked category (point and click mainstream news) and inject it with the new life that it so needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally Paul.  I agree.</p>
<p>I just wanted to make clear that our approach is neither to create a new category, nor join a &#8220;newish&#8221; category currently inhabited by early adopter and techie types. It&#8217;s to take a very old and enormously higher trafficked category (point and click mainstream news) and inject it with the new life that it so needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shel Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, can you name one company who achieved greatness without becoming a media darling? The press isn&#039;t there when that great idea is first presented.  They come in later, when companies go through the public scrutiny that filters out so many well-intended companies from that level of greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, can you name one company who achieved greatness without becoming a media darling? The press isn&#8217;t there when that great idea is first presented.  They come in later, when companies go through the public scrutiny that filters out so many well-intended companies from that level of greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like to point out that Newsvine will indeed succed possibly though you need to stop aiming the product and changes based around the views been given to you. Yes to some extent but you have stated you want this site to be the masses and in no way is the membership of newsvine for the masses yet. The views and opnions given are justified and i indeed love the site but for and newsvine to get your overall aim at a site for the masses where they click the green button as well as the blue E then you need to start broadaning the user range and getting the masses into the site... If you manage this then yes newsvine will still be great but it will also achieve the aims of the company and no matter how successful a company is to the outside it will never have the same feeling as realising you have reached your own goals....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like to point out that Newsvine will indeed succed possibly though you need to stop aiming the product and changes based around the views been given to you. Yes to some extent but you have stated you want this site to be the masses and in no way is the membership of newsvine for the masses yet. The views and opnions given are justified and i indeed love the site but for and newsvine to get your overall aim at a site for the masses where they click the green button as well as the blue E then you need to start broadaning the user range and getting the masses into the site&#8230; If you manage this then yes newsvine will still be great but it will also achieve the aims of the company and no matter how successful a company is to the outside it will never have the same feeling as realising you have reached your own goals&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeerus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeerus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with everything that&#039;s been said. Though I&#039;m only 15 years old I desperately want to create something thatw ill permanently leave my mark on the web, but negative criticism always bugs me. I realize I have to take it anyway, but I can&#039;t help wondering if everyone feels the same way, no matter how much positive backup I receive.

As web designers and developers we have to just keep on building, and improving on current technologies. There&#039;s always going to be a new language to learn, program to master, site to build, it&#039;s just a matter of having the drive to accomplish everything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with everything that&#8217;s been said. Though I&#8217;m only 15 years old I desperately want to create something thatw ill permanently leave my mark on the web, but negative criticism always bugs me. I realize I have to take it anyway, but I can&#8217;t help wondering if everyone feels the same way, no matter how much positive backup I receive.</p>
<p>As web designers and developers we have to just keep on building, and improving on current technologies. There&#8217;s always going to be a new language to learn, program to master, site to build, it&#8217;s just a matter of having the drive to accomplish everything</p>
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		<title>By: James AkaXakA</title>
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		<dc:creator>James AkaXakA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œAlmost every time a great idea is first presented, people tend to reject it.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, if it makes you feel any better, the first time I tried Newsvine I didn&#039;t think much of it either ;)

I still don&#039;t think it&#039;s for me but I can see the general appeal of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€œAlmost every time a great idea is first presented, people tend to reject it.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if it makes you feel any better, the first time I tried Newsvine I didn&#8217;t think much of it either ;)</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s for me but I can see the general appeal of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shel:

Apple.</description>
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<p>Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Rullo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Rullo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success is of secondary consequence. 

Survival is the name of the game at this point. If you put everything you have into the idea and execution and then release it into the market, it may have a fighting chance. You&#039;ve done that.

Now, having a bunch of people feed, shelter and protect it is the next step in the game, and as one of many anonymous surrogates, I can tell you that you&#039;re well on your way.

After that, arm and defend your baby, eat and sleep and enjoy the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success is of secondary consequence. </p>
<p>Survival is the name of the game at this point. If you put everything you have into the idea and execution and then release it into the market, it may have a fighting chance. You&#8217;ve done that.</p>
<p>Now, having a bunch of people feed, shelter and protect it is the next step in the game, and as one of many anonymous surrogates, I can tell you that you&#8217;re well on your way.</p>
<p>After that, arm and defend your baby, eat and sleep and enjoy the ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big fan of newsvine but I don&#039;t understand the whole money aspect of it. Why would I want to write a post on newsvine itself instead of writting it on my own blogs and then seeding that link. I would drop the whole ad share revenue aspect of the site and focus on what it is that makes newsvine so great. Just my two cents but from talking to other newsvine users...they tend to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of newsvine but I don&#8217;t understand the whole money aspect of it. Why would I want to write a post on newsvine itself instead of writting it on my own blogs and then seeding that link. I would drop the whole ad share revenue aspect of the site and focus on what it is that makes newsvine so great. Just my two cents but from talking to other newsvine users&#8230;they tend to agree.</p>
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