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	<title>Comments on: Visualizing Newsvine with Google Maps</title>
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		<title>By: Unthinkingly.com&#187; Archive &#187; Visualizing Community News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unthinkingly.com&#187; Archive &#187; Visualizing Community News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] impressively, Davidson has written today that an API is in the works and that: &#8220;Once true location data like this makes its way [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lookin&#039; good!

We just announced tagging in our system - makes perfect sense to me (tagging allows us to make show insertion and consumption easier over time).
I&#039;m really excited about a byproduct of the tagging: if venue X has 100 shows in our system, with tags we can look back to see a lot of information about those shows - genre most importantly. Match (mash?) that up with other data, like our zipcode/population/ album sales / mp3 sales (having partner companies == good), and we then have valuable market data we can share w/ bands looking for interesting places to play.

Further (can you tell I&#039;m really excited?), by allowing tagging and different information to float back out of our system, we&#039;ll be making the insertion process easier - once a few people tag a band/artist, we&#039;ll have a good idea of what type of music they are - and can keep live updates (by majority) on where to put those bands on display.

Interesting times, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lookin&#8217; good!</p>
<p>We just announced tagging in our system &#8211; makes perfect sense to me (tagging allows us to make show insertion and consumption easier over time).<br />
I&#8217;m really excited about a byproduct of the tagging: if venue X has 100 shows in our system, with tags we can look back to see a lot of information about those shows &#8211; genre most importantly. Match (mash?) that up with other data, like our zipcode/population/ album sales / mp3 sales (having partner companies == good), and we then have valuable market data we can share w/ bands looking for interesting places to play.</p>
<p>Further (can you tell I&#8217;m really excited?), by allowing tagging and different information to float back out of our system, we&#8217;ll be making the insertion process easier &#8211; once a few people tag a band/artist, we&#8217;ll have a good idea of what type of music they are &#8211; and can keep live updates (by majority) on where to put those bands on display.</p>
<p>Interesting times, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That example is really fun...but...

Does that address usability issues? I mean, it&#039;s great fun to play with and it&#039;s great to know that we *can* do such things. But how usable is something like that?

I don&#039;t want to take away from anyone here. I just want to point out that all of these great new uses of internet technology remind me of the late-90s/early-00s web. Lots of eye candy and no thought as to how people are actually going to use these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That example is really fun&#8230;but&#8230;</p>
<p>Does that address usability issues? I mean, it&#8217;s great fun to play with and it&#8217;s great to know that we *can* do such things. But how usable is something like that?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to take away from anyone here. I just want to point out that all of these great new uses of internet technology remind me of the late-90s/early-00s web. Lots of eye candy and no thought as to how people are actually going to use these things.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, either some people have way too much time on their hands, or they&#039;re really lookin&#039; for a job at Newsvine ;)

It seems like every other week a new API is being released and these mashups are being formed. Someone should eventually build the ultimate mashup that combines something to do with maps, travel, cooking, photos, and (add random API here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, either some people have way too much time on their hands, or they&#8217;re really lookin&#8217; for a job at Newsvine ;)</p>
<p>It seems like every other week a new API is being released and these mashups are being formed. Someone should eventually build the ultimate mashup that combines something to do with maps, travel, cooking, photos, and (add random API here).</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

While I would agree with you that there&#039;s a lot of eye candy (how many gradients can we get?), I&#039;d have to disagree that there&#039;s no attention to how people will use the Web.

I think that&#039;s the difference with the Web development nowadays: Those of us that have been through the first few rounds of ups-and-downs, we have finally emerged to an age where owners, managers, partners, and clients now hear our chants of &quot;but will they use it? CAN they use it?&quot;

Sure, I think there&#039;s a bit much of the 2.0. discussion going on, but there was too much blogging going on too ... livejournal and more... long before there was a name for it.

Finally, if we don&#039;t build it, how will we ever learn what will be used? Shouldn&#039;t usability be determined by people attempting use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>While I would agree with you that there&#8217;s a lot of eye candy (how many gradients can we get?), I&#8217;d have to disagree that there&#8217;s no attention to how people will use the Web.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the difference with the Web development nowadays: Those of us that have been through the first few rounds of ups-and-downs, we have finally emerged to an age where owners, managers, partners, and clients now hear our chants of &#8220;but will they use it? CAN they use it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, I think there&#8217;s a bit much of the 2.0. discussion going on, but there was too much blogging going on too &#8230; livejournal and more&#8230; long before there was a name for it.</p>
<p>Finally, if we don&#8217;t build it, how will we ever learn what will be used? Shouldn&#8217;t usability be determined by people attempting use?</p>
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		<title>By: Svante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t use Yahoo, at least not for now, since they only provide maps for the US. Google&#039;s maps cover the whole planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t use Yahoo, at least not for now, since they only provide maps for the US. Google&#8217;s maps cover the whole planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Svante: Ok, well that settles that then!  Didn&#039;t know about the U.S.-only aspect. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Svante: Ok, well that settles that then!  Didn&#8217;t know about the U.S.-only aspect. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalGetto</title>
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		<dc:creator>digitalGetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read some of your posts on newsvine.com and it sounds interesting. What does one have to do to become priviledged?! :)

I&#039;d appreciate some tips at dinescumiky (at) hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read some of your posts on newsvine.com and it sounds interesting. What does one have to do to become priviledged?! :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d appreciate some tips at dinescumiky (at) hotmail.com</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no... Google covers the world with maps. So many things were wrong with that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no&#8230; Google covers the world with maps. So many things were wrong with that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I hear about Newsvine, the more I want in! Their buzz campaign is working perfectly on me. I&#039;ve registered my interest with them, but unfortunately I don&#039;t know anybody who can provide me with an invite. So I&#039;m waiting for the day they open their site up - I&#039;m really looking forward to seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I hear about Newsvine, the more I want in! Their buzz campaign is working perfectly on me. I&#8217;ve registered my interest with them, but unfortunately I don&#8217;t know anybody who can provide me with an invite. So I&#8217;m waiting for the day they open their site up &#8211; I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coolies, one of I the reaons I don&#039;t use NewsVine that much yet as it isnt very UK centric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coolies, one of I the reaons I don&#8217;t use NewsVine that much yet as it isnt very UK centric.</p>
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		<title>By: gb</title>
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		<dc:creator>gb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d always wondered about the limited geographic areas, mike... good to know it&#039;ll expand.


I still love how the US stories all point to somewhere in West Virginia... very volatile place, it would seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d always wondered about the limited geographic areas, mike&#8230; good to know it&#8217;ll expand.</p>
<p>I still love how the US stories all point to somewhere in West Virginia&#8230; very volatile place, it would seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Staci Wolfe :: Girl Journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staci Wolfe :: Girl Journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on my thesis... only in the brainstorming stage right now, but I really want to use geocoding to do some sort of content analysis. Right now, I&#039;m  trying to figure out a method for tagging local news. Does anyone know of any studies and/or guidlines that have been used for geocoding news stories? I mean, I want to know how you code a story - by the location of the story (what if there are multiple locations?) by the sources?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on my thesis&#8230; only in the brainstorming stage right now, but I really want to use geocoding to do some sort of content analysis. Right now, I&#8217;m  trying to figure out a method for tagging local news. Does anyone know of any studies and/or guidlines that have been used for geocoding news stories? I mean, I want to know how you code a story &#8211; by the location of the story (what if there are multiple locations?) by the sources?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Micek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Micek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope this isn&#039;t taken as useless information, but, &quot;Google Maps is the best.  True that.  Double true!&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4506123073895130257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lazy Sunday&lt;/a&gt;, the source of the quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope this isn&#8217;t taken as useless information, but, &#8220;Google Maps is the best.  True that.  Double true!&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4506123073895130257" rel="nofollow">Lazy Sunday</a>, the source of the quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So super cool.  I dig it.

Here&#039;s the thing with visualizations though.  Would people use it?  I&#039;ve thought about this for TailRank.  I&#039;d totally expose the data and allow someone else to do it themselves but I&#039;m not really sure it&#039;s a real world and useful app fro everyday people.

I mean if you want stories on SF you could just view the &#039;sanfrancisco&#039; tag right?

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So super cool.  I dig it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing with visualizations though.  Would people use it?  I&#8217;ve thought about this for TailRank.  I&#8217;d totally expose the data and allow someone else to do it themselves but I&#8217;m not really sure it&#8217;s a real world and useful app fro everyday people.</p>
<p>I mean if you want stories on SF you could just view the &#8217;sanfrancisco&#8217; tag right?</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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