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> <channel><title>Comments on: Of iPods, and Music Videos</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/apples-video-ipod-plans/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos</link> <description>A running commentary of occasionally interesting things.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:03:27 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6905</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6905</guid> <description>(Hey, I actually posted first :P)I agree with you on all that stuff.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Hey, I actually posted first :P)</p><p>I agree with you on all that stuff.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff Croft</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6906</link> <dc:creator>Jeff Croft</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6906</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...the last music video I watched was something from Christina Aguilera&#039;s Slut-Yourself-Rich period a couple of years ago....
&lt;/blockquote&gt;God I loved that period.Anyhoo...I generally agree that there probably isn&#039;t much money in selling music videos (although I personally rather enjoy them and will probably buy them). However, it seems to me that music videos are a &quot;low-hanging fruit&quot; that would give Apple an easy entry into the video market. Movies are the obvious breadwinner here, but I believe there are still licensing deals and copyright issues to be dealt with. Concert videos is a great idea, but it requires &lt;em&gt;production of them&lt;/em&gt;, which is no doubt an expensive and complicated task. Music videos, on the other hand, are just sitting there, ready to be taken, ripe to be picked.It seems like a reasonable first shot at the video market to me. I just hope it&#039;s not the be-all-end-all of Apple&#039;s video plans (and surely isn&#039;t not, right?).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;the last music video I watched was something from Christina Aguilera&#8217;s Slut-Yourself-Rich period a couple of years ago&#8230;.</p></blockquote><p>God I loved that period.</p><p>Anyhoo&#8230;I generally agree that there probably isn&#8217;t much money in selling music videos (although I personally rather enjoy them and will probably buy them). However, it seems to me that music videos are a &#8220;low-hanging fruit&#8221; that would give Apple an easy entry into the video market. Movies are the obvious breadwinner here, but I believe there are still licensing deals and copyright issues to be dealt with. Concert videos is a great idea, but it requires <em>production of them</em>, which is no doubt an expensive and complicated task. Music videos, on the other hand, are just sitting there, ready to be taken, ripe to be picked.</p><p>It seems like a reasonable first shot at the video market to me. I just hope it&#8217;s not the be-all-end-all of Apple&#8217;s video plans (and surely isn&#8217;t not, right?).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Philip</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6907</link> <dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6907</guid> <description>agreed. music videos, big deal. can i watch u2&#039;s latest show, or the live8 shows? awesome.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed. music videos, big deal. can i watch u2&#8242;s latest show, or the live8 shows? awesome.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike D.</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6908</link> <dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6908</guid> <description>Jeff: Read up on the NetworkLive stuff a little. AEG has a good deal of experience producing concerts and they have a good amount of major venues locked up too (like the Staples Center, for instance).  If Apple tried to produce shows by themselves, then sure, it would be a huge task. But this joint venture really seems like a viable thing to me... especially if the economics of the music industry play out like some people think they will, with live shows being the major source of revenue and recorded albums basically being given out for free.Also, don&#039;t forget that the concerts in and of themselves are *already* profitable. Live and archived footage is just gravy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: Read up on the NetworkLive stuff a little. AEG has a good deal of experience producing concerts and they have a good amount of major venues locked up too (like the Staples Center, for instance).  If Apple tried to produce shows by themselves, then sure, it would be a huge task. But this joint venture really seems like a viable thing to me&#8230; especially if the economics of the music industry play out like some people think they will, with live shows being the major source of revenue and recorded albums basically being given out for free.</p><p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that the concerts in and of themselves are *already* profitable. Live and archived footage is just gravy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff Croft</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6909</link> <dc:creator>Jeff Croft</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6909</guid> <description>Mike-That makes sense. I guess my real point was that just because Apple is doing music videos &lt;em&gt;first&lt;/em&gt; doesn&#039;t necessarily mean all this other stuff isn&#039;t on their radar...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike-</p><p>That makes sense. I guess my real point was that just because Apple is doing music videos <em>first</em> doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean all this other stuff isn&#8217;t on their radar&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff Croft</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6910</link> <dc:creator>Jeff Croft</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6910</guid> <description>BTW, AEG is responsible for the new area in downtown Kansas City, so it&#039;d be sweet if concerts there were also included. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, AEG is responsible for the new area in downtown Kansas City, so it&#8217;d be sweet if concerts there were also included. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike D.</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6911</link> <dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6911</guid> <description>Jeff: Yep.  Another to consider as well is the question &quot;Does &#039;music video&#039; mean what we see on MTV?  Or could it could be snippet from a live concert?&quot; If it&#039;s live songs with accompanying video that Apple is looking to sell, well then I think we have something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: Yep.  Another to consider as well is the question &#8220;Does &#8216;music video&#8217; mean what we see on MTV?  Or could it could be snippet from a live concert?&#8221; If it&#8217;s live songs with accompanying video that Apple is looking to sell, well then I think we have something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pedro</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6912</link> <dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6912</guid> <description>The only real use I could maybe think of this whole iPod music video&#039;s is maybe in your car.  You can easily now connect your iPod to your car speaker system.  With this whole &#039;Pimp My Ride&#039; and video screens hitting cars, maybe there there will be a connection to where you can connect it to your screens in your car and you would not have to bring a case of music videos on DVD&#039;s to play in your car.I do not have a TV (college student), but when I did watch MTV or VH1 and it was music videos, I usually just had it on to listen to the latest in music.  I did not sit down and actually watch the videos.All in all, like you said, I do not think it is a market worth going after.  There is Yahoo Launch which I think does a terrific job of showing music videos if you are inclined to watch some.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real use I could maybe think of this whole iPod music video&#8217;s is maybe in your car.  You can easily now connect your iPod to your car speaker system.  With this whole &#8216;Pimp My Ride&#8217; and video screens hitting cars, maybe there there will be a connection to where you can connect it to your screens in your car and you would not have to bring a case of music videos on DVD&#8217;s to play in your car.</p><p>I do not have a TV (college student), but when I did watch MTV or VH1 and it was music videos, I usually just had it on to listen to the latest in music.  I did not sit down and actually watch the videos.</p><p>All in all, like you said, I do not think it is a market worth going after.  There is Yahoo Launch which I think does a terrific job of showing music videos if you are inclined to watch some.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6913</link> <dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6913</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think the portable movie market is there. How many people can watch a movie while walking? Are the UMD movies selling? That would tell us something. I mean are people gonna buy a movie for their iPod and then have to buy it again for their DVD player? That sucks.If they could let a DVD be ripped and watched on your iPod then that would be great, but that will never happen. It&#039;s illegal to do anything cool like that with DVD&#039;s.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the portable movie market is there. How many people can watch a movie while walking? Are the UMD movies selling? That would tell us something. I mean are people gonna buy a movie for their iPod and then have to buy it again for their DVD player? That sucks.</p><p>If they could let a DVD be ripped and watched on your iPod then that would be great, but that will never happen. It&#8217;s illegal to do anything cool like that with DVD&#8217;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: vaska</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6914</link> <dc:creator>vaska</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6914</guid> <description>Very smart call on the InterTrust thing.But what about television shows - sitcoms, cartoons, Charlie Rose?  I hear stories (as I don&#039;t have one myself) of people watching the Simpsons via their cellphones on the train to work.  Is this not true?Perhaps going astray, but the BBC is soon to start releasing their shows online.  I&#039;ve heard that they are going to rely upon P2P for distribution so they don&#039;t have to absorb all the bandwidth costs themselves.As I&#039;m a native Seattle-ite living in Europe, I can&#039;t tell you what I would do to have easy access to some shows.  Yes, I would even be willing to pay to download.  Will tv in the states find a model to follow BBC&#039;s lead as well?  Could Apple have a role (as opposed to exclusively distributing movies)?  Is this discussion merely about music videos and movies?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very smart call on the InterTrust thing.</p><p>But what about television shows &#8211; sitcoms, cartoons, Charlie Rose?  I hear stories (as I don&#8217;t have one myself) of people watching the Simpsons via their cellphones on the train to work.  Is this not true?</p><p>Perhaps going astray, but the BBC is soon to start releasing their shows online.  I&#8217;ve heard that they are going to rely upon P2P for distribution so they don&#8217;t have to absorb all the bandwidth costs themselves.</p><p>As I&#8217;m a native Seattle-ite living in Europe, I can&#8217;t tell you what I would do to have easy access to some shows.  Yes, I would even be willing to pay to download.  Will tv in the states find a model to follow BBC&#8217;s lead as well?  Could Apple have a role (as opposed to exclusively distributing movies)?  Is this discussion merely about music videos and movies?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike D.</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6915</link> <dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6915</guid> <description>Nathan: The situation you describe with DVDs being transferred to portable devices is actually in the cards already with some of Microsoft&#039;s latest technologies. No one has put it to great use yet, but the hope is that it will become a popular value-add to off-the-shelf DVDs.Vaska: Distributing TV shows may be a bit easier than movies in some cases, given the shorter length and lower quality requirements, but the rights issues are still there. Think about the show &quot;WKRP in Cincinnati&quot; which had to have all of its music removed when redistributed because the authors of the music didn&#039;t agree to let their stuff be reused without being paid additional fees.  The thing about TV is that when a station like NBC broadcasts a show like &quot;Friends&quot;, they don&#039;t automatically have the right to do whatever they want with it afterwards. The producers of the show (an independent company) retain those rights so whenever NBC decides they want to do something else with the show besides just air it on TV, they need to go back to the production company for rights. Studios are starting to get hip to this stuff and negotiating &quot;IP distribution rights&quot; in advance, so the situation should get better in the future, but it&#039;s not retroactive, so most of your favorite shows will still have issues.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan: The situation you describe with DVDs being transferred to portable devices is actually in the cards already with some of Microsoft&#8217;s latest technologies. No one has put it to great use yet, but the hope is that it will become a popular value-add to off-the-shelf DVDs.</p><p>Vaska: Distributing TV shows may be a bit easier than movies in some cases, given the shorter length and lower quality requirements, but the rights issues are still there. Think about the show &#8220;WKRP in Cincinnati&#8221; which had to have all of its music removed when redistributed because the authors of the music didn&#8217;t agree to let their stuff be reused without being paid additional fees.  The thing about TV is that when a station like NBC broadcasts a show like &#8220;Friends&#8221;, they don&#8217;t automatically have the right to do whatever they want with it afterwards. The producers of the show (an independent company) retain those rights so whenever NBC decides they want to do something else with the show besides just air it on TV, they need to go back to the production company for rights. Studios are starting to get hip to this stuff and negotiating &#8220;IP distribution rights&#8221; in advance, so the situation should get better in the future, but it&#8217;s not retroactive, so most of your favorite shows will still have issues.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Round</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6916</link> <dc:creator>Matt Round</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6916</guid> <description>Maybe there isn&#039;t a huge market for portable movies, but then there isn&#039;t much of a demand for portable photo viewers and Apple still produced the iPod Photo.I think you have to also see the iPod as Apple&#039;s strongest marketing tool for the rest of its range. If they want to move into selling movies (and perhaps produce a media centre Mac to sit under the telly) they&#039;ll need every trick in the book to make it succeed, and getting people used to viewing cheaper videos (and ones they&#039;ve created themselves) on their iPods is one such trick.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there isn&#8217;t a huge market for portable movies, but then there isn&#8217;t much of a demand for portable photo viewers and Apple still produced the iPod Photo.</p><p>I think you have to also see the iPod as Apple&#8217;s strongest marketing tool for the rest of its range. If they want to move into selling movies (and perhaps produce a media centre Mac to sit under the telly) they&#8217;ll need every trick in the book to make it succeed, and getting people used to viewing cheaper videos (and ones they&#8217;ve created themselves) on their iPods is one such trick.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AkaXakA</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6917</link> <dc:creator>AkaXakA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6917</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;so whenever NBC decides they want to do something else with the show besides just air it on TV, they need to go back to the production company for rights.&lt;/i&gt;But doesn&#039;t that open up the arena to those production studios to go and sell their content to (say...) Apple directly?Of course, it would mean that Apple would have to deal with a lot more parties, though they of course would be less powerfull.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so whenever NBC decides they want to do something else with the show besides just air it on TV, they need to go back to the production company for rights.</i></p><p>But doesn&#8217;t that open up the arena to those production studios to go and sell their content to (say&#8230;) Apple directly?</p><p>Of course, it would mean that Apple would have to deal with a lot more parties, though they of course would be less powerfull.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6918</link> <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6918</guid> <description>Matt has it right. They can release the ipod video as an extension of the iLife on Macs. It would make it easy to produce a home video, put it on the ipod, go to grandma&#039;s and show grandma the trip to Europe. That would eliminate the need for a DVD and a Superdrive.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt has it right. They can release the ipod video as an extension of the iLife on Macs. It would make it easy to produce a home video, put it on the ipod, go to grandma&#8217;s and show grandma the trip to Europe. That would eliminate the need for a DVD and a Superdrive.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dean</title><link>http://www.mikeindustries.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&#038;feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&#038;seed=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeindustries.com%2Fblog%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2Fapples-video-ipod-plans&#038;seed_title=Of+iPods%2C+and+Music+Videos/comment-page-1#comment-6919</link> <dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6919</guid> <description>They could always rebroadcast Grateful Dead concerts.  ;)  (I&#039;d watch -- see, I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; old.)  It probably wouldn&#039;t cost them much either since the Grateful Dead encouraged the audience to record their concerts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could always rebroadcast Grateful Dead concerts.  ;)  (I&#8217;d watch &#8212; see, I&#8217;m <em>really</em> old.)  It probably wouldn&#8217;t cost them much either since the Grateful Dead encouraged the audience to record their concerts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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